Loyalist Son Daniel Carlisle & Alison/Elsie Stover of Canada and Indiana

As I’ve pointed out in earlier Carlisle posts, for many years, the whereabouts of Daniel & “Alison” Carlisle after 1816 in Kings County, New Brunswick, Canada were a complete mystery.

Now that the brick wall have been partially demolished, I’d like to share their family sketch in the hopes that descendants might find me and make contact.

Daniel Carlisle, the son of Loyalist Robert Carlisle and wife Catherine, was born no later than 1788, New Brunswick, Canada, as he received a crown land grant in 1809, which required that he be 21 years of age or older.

Daniel died after 1840, when he lived in La Porte County, Indiana, but it is not known if he died there or moved elsewhere. In any case, he appears to have died before 1860.

Daniel married Alison/Elsie/Alcey Stover, c1809, probably Sussex, Kings, New Brunswick, Canada. Elsie was born c1789, New Brunswick, Canada, one of the older children of Loyalist Peter Stover and his first wife, Matilda, who settled first in Sussex, Kings, New Brunswick, Canada.

Elcey died after 1840, if she is the female 50-59 living at home in 1840 in La Porte County, Indiana. (Family = male, 50-59, female, 50-59, female, 10-19, 2 males 10-15, male 5-9 and a female 5-9.

Daniel made himself scarce when it came to a paper trail, as he is not found anywhere in New Brunswick records except for his 1809 petition in Kings County, New Brunswick and one land deed recording a land sale for acreage on the Salmon River in Sussex,  from “Daniel and Alison” to Christian Steeves on 12 October 1816.

Daniel migrated to Ontario, possibly with his brother Robert’s family, and settled in Kent County, Ontario, Canada. He recorded a land patent there in 1837, but records for two of his children – Daniel and Elcey Jane – both report births in Kent, Ontario, Canada in the 1820s, so he lived in Ontario long before 1837.

His assigned lot in Harwich was Lot 7 – right next to that of Martin and Anna (Carlisle) Fennacy, his niece and daughter of his brother Robert, who owned Lot 6.

Daniel might even have been in Ontario before 1820, as no children appear in the baptismal records of Sussex, Kings, New Brunswick, Canada for his family.

Given the gaps in birth years of his children, there were undoubtedly others who have not yet been identified.

Placing children in this family was done by preponderance of evidence – clues found in official records (not online trees).

Children:

  1. Peter, born c1811, New Brunswick, Canada; died between 1880 – 1 July 1887, probably Klickitat County, Washington; married Nancy Newcombe, 7 July 1834, Ontario, Canada. She was born 15 September 1811, Nova Scotia, Canada; died after 7 July 1887, probably Klickitat County, Washington. Given that Daniel’s wife was an (assumed) daughter of Peter Stover, it would be expected that Daniel and Elcey would name a son for her father. In 1850, Peter Carlisle lived in Yamhill County, Oregon and reported his birthplace as New Brunswick, which is where Daniel and Alison were living at the time. One other fact, probably not a coincidence, is that Peter Stover and Peter Carlisle recorded consecutive deeds in Kent, Ontario, Canada in the early 1830s. Newcombe is a family name found in Kent County, Ontario.
  2. Eliza Jane, born c1823, Kent, Ontario, Canada; died 13 February 1916, Howard County, Iowa; married Julius Fox Webster, 25 January 1841, Berrien County, Michigan. Julius was born 9 November 1818, Richland County, Ohio; died 18 August 1892, Howard County, Iowa. Eliza and Julius both reported living in Door Prairie, La Porte County, Indiana when they married. The 1840 census shows Daniel Carlisle and Asaph Webster living two doors apart. Census records show Eliza born in Canada and a descendant added Kent County, Ontario.
  3. Daniel, born c1825, Kent, Ontario, Canada; died (reportedly) December 1883, Fort Worth, Tarrant, Texas; married Minerva Adams, 13 August 1848, Fond du Lac, Grant, Wisconsin. Minerva was born 1828, Rochester, New York; died 1902, California. This couple divorced between 1870 and 1880, when Minerva was living in San Francisco and reported her marital status. Daniel was a California 49er and lived with his family in Oakland, Alameda, California for many years.
  4. James, born c1826, Canada; died 1 March 1896, La Porte City, Black Hawk, Iowa; married Maria Helm/s, 17 August 1848, Fond du Lac, Grant, Wisconsin. She was born 1822, New York; died 1911, Black Hawk County, Iowa. Because there were no other Carlisles in Grant County, Wisconsin in 1850 and James and Daniel married only three days apart, it seems likely that they were brothers. There is a James A. Carlisle in El Dorado County, California in 1850. Although they weren’t living together, Daniel Carlisle was there in 1850. Finally, James and Maria named their first son Daniel James Carlisle, likely in honor of his father.

Given the ten year gap between the birth of Peter and Eliza Jane, there were probably five more children born during those years.

If you have a Carlisle ancestor born in Canada between 1810-1825 who lived in Ontario, particularly in Kent County, and have been unable to place them with parents, please leave a comment. Perhaps we can figure out if he/she is a potential child of Daniel and Elcey (Stover) Carlisle.

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