John Ogden & Alice (MNU), Haworth, Yorkshire, England, 1500s

This family sketch will be on the short side because not much is known about this family.

One important fact, though, is that John Ogden lived in the same small village of Haworth, Yorkshire, England as did the presumed progenitor of this family, Richard Ogden, who died in 1533.

John Ogden was likely born c1524, probably in or very near to Haworth. Alice (MNU) was his surviving wife, who died sometime after 4 October 1576, when John’s will was recorded.

Whether she was the mother of John’s two surviving children is unknown and there is a probable gap of about ten years between the births of his son and daughter.

Children:

  1. Richard, born c1545; died before 10 April 1606, probably in Haworth, Yorkshire, England; married Elizabeth (MNU)
  2. Alice, born c1556; died after 17 April 1576 (date of her father’s will); married George Murgatroyd, sometime before 17 April 1576, the date of her father’s will

Actually, the birth order of these two children is unknown, as neither baptismal or marriage records have been found and we know only that Alice was married by 1576. There is no indication of when she was born. It is possible that she was older than Richard.

Next, we will look at the family of Richard and Elizabeth (MNU) Ogden.

English Origins of Richard Ogden, died 1687, Fairfield County, CT

While the New York Genealogical & biographical Society is a top notch resource, I’ve never had enough New York lines to pursue that I’ve sought out membership.

Like the New England Historic and Genealogical Society, NYGBS publishes a first rate journal, The Record. American Ancestors does have some older issues of The Record in its online collection, but only up to 1924 so I’ve never read most of the more modern articles they have published.

However, while I was recently in the small library of my local genealogical society, I noticed that someone had donated paper copies of The Record dating from 2018 to 2021. Of course, I browsed and, much to my delight, I came across a three part article detailing the English origins of Richard Ogden, one of my Connecticut ancestors who settled in Fairfield County, Connecticut in the 1600s.

The first article in the series, The Ogden Family of Oxenhope: The Probable Yorkshire Origins of John and Richard Ogden, Early Settlers of Stamford, Connecticut and Proprietors of Hempstead, New York, was published in 2018 in Volume 149, no. 4, pages 245-262.

Authors Louis G. Ogden and Brent M. Owen reviewed previous research on the early Ogdens and explained their own background research and findings.

The result is not only the addition of Richard Ogden’s English origins, but also four additional generations of Ogden forebears from the West Riding of Yorkshire, England.

Two more articles in the three-part series followed, the second published in January 2019 (Volume 150, no. 1, pages 61-76 and the conclusion published in April 2019 (Volume 150, no. 2, pages 147-154).

If you are an Ogden descendant of Richard or John Ogden, I strongly recommend locating these journals, as there is so much information to be learned.

In the next few posts, I will share just the bare bones about the Ogden family of Yorkshire, beginning today with the man thought to be the progenitor, Richard Hogden of Haworth, Yorkshire, England.

Little is known about Richard, who was born c1500, likely in or near Haworth, England. What is known about his life comes mainly from his will, which was written on 21 December 1532 and recorded on 13 June 1533. Richard noted his residence as Haworth and asked that he be buried at St. Michael’s Church there.

His wife at the time and who might or might not be the mother of any of his children was Janett (MNU), who inherited all is land during her lifetime. It is thought that she was still living in 1545, when the wife of Richard paid one penny in subsidy tax.

No children were named, but since his wife was the only heir, there is no way to determine how many children might have survived him.

However, because Haworth sits almost equidistant between Keighley and Bingley, where the later Ogdens lived, it is more than possible that this Richard Ogden was the father of John Ogden, for whom a family sketch will be shared in tomorrow’s post. Further support for this theory is that John Ogden, one generation younger, also lived in Haworth.

My lengthy Ogden descent (14 generations) is:

Richard Hogden, born c1500 = Janett (possible progenitor)
John Ogden = Alice (MNU)
Richard Ogden = Elizabeth (MNU)
Richard Ogden = Unknown
Richard Ogden = Ellen Lupton
Richard Ogden = Mary (MNU) (Connecticut immigrant)
Daniel Silliman = Abigail Ogden
David Adams = Abigail Silliman
David Adams = Susannah Lockwood
John Adams = Sarah Coley (U.E. Loyalist)
Thomas Adams = Sarah Brawn
Daniel Adams = Sarah Ann Parker
Calvin Segee Adams = Nellie F. Tarbox
Charles Edwin Adams = Annie Maude Stuart
Vernon Tarbox Adams = Hazel Ethel Coleman
George Michael Sabo = Doris Priscilla Adams
Linda Anne Sabo – Me!

Next up is the family sketch of John Ogden & Alice (MNU) of Haworth, England in the 1500s.


Saturday Night Genealogy Fun: What New Maps Have You Found?

We’re in the dog days of summer now in Tucson with frequent monsoon rains, hot temperatures and higher than usual humidity. Genealogy is a great hobby to keep me busy indoors and even better that it’s time for this weekend’s Saturday Night Genealogy Fun challenge with Randy Seaver.

1)  Do you collect maps of the places that you have ancestors or family?  I do!  I love maps.

2) Tell us about a recent map find in your own blog post, and where you found it.  Share the map and a comment on this post, or in a Facebook Status  post.  

I do collect digital maps of some of the places where my ancestors lived, although I haven’t found any new ones lately.

However, I did learn about a new geographic feature in Passaic, New Jersey, where I grew up, but it was long gone before I was ever around.

What started my hunt was finding this postcard of the neighborhood around St. Michael’s Church, which was where my grandmother, Julia Scerbak Sabo, worshiped for most of her life. I was very aware that the Dundee Canal, created in the late 1800s to supply more water to the newly established Passaic factories and mills, used to run right by the church. I assumed the water was channeled from the Passaic River, but this photo and then a modern map told me that wasn’t so.

This postcard is dated 29 July 1906 and under the postmark, “Vreeland’s Pond” can be read. I had never heard of Vreeland’s Pond. What caught my eye is the church towers seen in the distance in the middle of the photo, behind the square building.

Those are the original towers of St. Michael’s Church (later replaced by shorter ones for safety reasons). I have been to this neighborhood many times, but there was never ever any body of water there during my lifetime.

So, off I went to online maps to see if I could figure out exactly where the pond was. St. Michael’s is on the east side of the street (96 First Street) and the street runs mostly slightly northwest to slightly southeast. Based on the angle of the front of the church, First Street would almost certainly have been extended right through Vreeland’s Pond.

What is great about digital maps is that they can be rotated to match a specific view. Here is the first map view of the area:

St. Michael’s Church is the red pin at the corner of First Street (unmarked) and Bergen Street. By going to street view, I can rotate the map and neighborhood view:

The streets in this street view are First Street, along the left side and it passes in front of the large school building. You can see St. Michael’s current church towers again in the middle of the image, although they might be slightly more distant than as seen on the postcard.

It looks like Vreeland’s Pond was roughly here:

Without seeing the entire pond in the postcard view, there is no way to determine how large it really was. It’s possible it extended all the way over to Pulaski Park as many Passaic parks have ponds or streams in them.

To test this theory, I checked the Library of Congress for a Sanborn map of Passaic and found one dated 1903.

Here are the color images of the area:

You can see St. Michael’s called the Greek Catholic church at the corner of Bergen and First Street. Right across the street is the Dundee Canal and, if you travel left along First Street, the next map shows:

The Dundee Canal is prominent and 1st Street is just above. The bottom left corner shows Parker Avenue and Monroe Street with the blue area called Vreeland Lake!

Going back to Google maps, here is a much better view:

The red pin is the corner of Parker Avenue and Monroe Street today. St. Michael’s is the red arrow at the bottom at the corner of Bergen and First Streets. The yellow arrow in the middle, just at Madison Street is the spot I chose in Google street view as the area where Vreeland Pond was. I came pretty close, just using a postcard view!

Notice, too, in the bottom left corner, there is Vreeland Avenue. Passaic was originally settled by the Dutch. Vreeland is a Dutch name and I’m guessing Mr. Vreeland’s home and land was right around Vreeland Avenue.

Having found the Sanborn 1903 map, I pieced together several images, printed them out (black and white, so not very readable), but colored markers help define the area. St. Michael’s is the blue box on the right with pink along the Dundee Canal. Green is outlining the portions of Vreeland’s Pond. The gray buildings on the far left were part of Botany Worsted Mills where the Rusyn immigrants all went to work when they first arrived in Passaic. This company was huge in the late 1800s and early 1900s, but by the 1950s, I remember a big warehouse room where they sold coats and a few other articles of clothing.

It looks like the land is still being used as industrial housing today:

Finally, from William Winfeld Scott’s History of Passaic and Its Environs, comes this little tidbit:

Garrett Vreeland, in the 1700s, had a saw and grist mill and a distillery on the (Passaic) river bank, by the side of a brook, WHICH NOW FORMS A POND ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE AVENUE.

I think I’ve solved identified the location of the pond and the person for whom it was named and I actually found a new map while doing it – the 1903 Sanborn map of Passaic, New Jersey.

Thank you, Randy. This was fun.

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