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John Warren, Watertown, MA, 1630: Wife’s Maiden Name Proved!

John Warren, baptized 1 August1 1585, Nayland, Suffolk, England is one of my 10X great grandfathers. His wife has been identified as Margaret and, until last year, her maiden name had not been uncovered.

I have to admit that I love The American Genealogist, among other professional New England genealogical journals because I often find articles about my ancestors.

It’s been two years now, but the January/April 2021 issue, published in August 2022 again brought a smile to my face.

Leslie Mahler, FASG, has published “Margaret Abbott, Wife of John Warren of Watertown, Massachusetts, and Sister of George Abbott of Rowley, Massachusetts.

I have now been able to update my family sketch for John Warren and his wife, Margaret. John Warren is an ancestor I think I would have liked to have met. Although he was an early settler, arriving in Massachusetts by 1630, he definitely wasn’t a conventional Puritan.

John was fined six different times for missing church services. It is thought that he may have had Baptist tendencies, which weren’t popular in early Massachusetts.

He signed his will with his mark, so he wasn’t able to write, at least at the end of his life. Whether or not he was literate, I don’t know.

John Warren married Margaret Abbott on 5 November 1612 in Chappel, Essex, England, just a few miles south of Nayland, Suffolk, where the couple’s children were baptized.

Children (All events in Nayland unless otherwise stated):

1. Mary, baptized 23 April 1615; buried 17 December 1622
2. Elizabeth, baptized 22 June 1619; buried 25 November 1622
3. Sarah, baptized 20 April 1620; buried 7 September 1621
4. John, baptized 12 May 1622; died 27January 1703, Watertown, Middlesex, Massachusetts; married Michal (Jennison) Bloise, widow of Richard  11 July 1667, Watertown, Middlesex, Massachusetts. They were the parents of seven children.
5. Mary, baptized 12 September 1624; died 19 October 1691, Watertown, Middlesex, Massachusetts; married John Bigelow, 30 October 1642, Watertown, Middlesex, Massachusetts. they were the parents of 13 children.
6. Daniel, baptized 25 February 1626/27; died 13 February 1716, Watertown, Middlesex, Massachusetts; married Mary Barron, 10 December 1650, Watertown, Middlesex, Massachusetts. They wree the parents of ten children.
7. Elizabeth, baptized 21 July 1629; died 12 January 1716, Watertown, Middlesex, Massachusetts; married James Knapp, c1654. They were the parents of two children.

As you can see, John Warren and Margaret Abbott have many descendants and now they know her maiden name!

 

 

 

 

Where There’s a Will: John Warren

I’ve decided to spotlight the head of a family of one of my earliest arriving colonial ancestors, John Warren. The family arrived in the Winthrop Fleet of 1630. The fleet was made up of eleven ships, which sailed from Yarmouth, England to Salem, Massachusetts.

In those very early days of colonial settlement, it is likely that most of the settlers chose to leave England because of discontent with religious institutions along with perhaps those who also longed for a chance at an improved life in Massachusetts.

John Warren, my 10x great grandfather, who was baptized on 1 August 1585 in Nayland, Suffolk, England, the son of John and Elizabeth (Scarlett) Warren.

John’s wife, and the mother of his seven children, was Margaret. Although there are references online to her maiden name, I have never found any evidence to support even a hint of it. The NEHGS Great Migration Study includes a sketch of John Warren and family, but does not suggest possible maiden names for her.

It is likely that Margaret came from a nearby village and was not baptized in Nayland. Her last child was born in 1629 so she was likely a bit younger than husband John, whose birth is recorded in the Nayland church book in 1585. John would have married his bride in her home parish and it may be one which does not have surviving records before 1615. It is even possible that Margaret’s family was in Essex County, as Nayland is less than five miles from the Essex-Suffolk county line.

Wherever the marriage took place, it likely happened in late 1613 or early 1614, as their first known child was baptized at the Nayland village church of St. James in April 1615, followed by the baptisms of their other six children, all at St. James Church.

Children:

1. Mary, baptized 23 April 1615; buried 17 December 1622
2. Elizabeth, baptized 25 June 1618; buried 25 November 1622
3. Sarah, baptized 20 April 1620; buried 7 September 1621
4. John, baptized 12 May 1622; died about January 1702; married Michal (Jennison) Bloise, widow of Richard Bloise and daughter of Robert and Grace Jennison on 11 July 1667, Watertown, MA
5. Mary, baptized 12 September 1624; married John Bigelow on 30 October 1642, Watertown, MA
6. Daniel, baptized 25 February 1626/7; married Mary Barron, daughter of Ellis Barron, on 10 December 1650, Watertown, MA
7. Elizabeth, baptized 21 July 1629; married James Knopp/Knapp before 1655

When John and Margaret set out from Nayland to sail with the Winthrop Fleet, they had four very young children, with baby Elizabeth only about nine months old. The trip was long and dangerous so John seems an excellent fit with the theme “Where There’s a Will.” He was unhappy in England and was quite determined to start a new life, no matter what obstacles might prevent them from attaining that goal.

John Warren left England because he did not subscribe to mainstream religious beliefs of the time. East Anglia, of which Suffolk was a part, was a hotbed of Puritan beliefs in the early 1600’s and many of these Puritans migrated to Massachusetts in the 1630’s.

However, John didn’t appear to hold strictly traditional Puritan beliefs either. He was not only charged in 1629 in England with failing to kneel for communion, which was a common Puritan offense, but was also fined in Massachusetts for failing to attend public worship on six or more occasions and was fined 5s. for each missed service. Henry Bond, who authored Family Memorials. Genealogies of the Families and Descendents of the Early Settlers of Watertown, Massachusetts, Including Waltham and Weston; to Which Is Appended the Early History of the Town.. Vol. I. Boston, MA, USA: Little, Brown, and Company, 1855, presented the idea that perhaps John Warren was a Baptist. However, on 17 May 1661, his home was ordered to be searched on the suspicion that he was harboring Quakers.

In spite of his religious non-conformity even among non-conformists, John must have been a somewhat esteemed member of the community as he  was made a freeman on 18 May 1631. He later served as a Watertown selectman and on committees charged with laying out highways and dividing land, all positions of responsibility.

No record has been found as to how his family financed their voyage across the sea. Indentured servitude common, but John’s land holdings pointed to more wealth than what was typical at the time. He may have had money outright to pay the fare.

Margaret pre-deceased John, dying on 6 December 1662, in Watertown, Massachusetts. John died five years later on 13 December 1667, also in Watertown.

There are few other records in existence that would provide other enlightening details as to John Warren’s personal beliefs. However, there might be one more clue to be had in the marriage of his youngest daughter, Elizabeth, to James Knopp/Knapp. James was the son of William and Judith (Tue) Knopp and William, himself, ran afoul of the authorities more than once.