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Lawrence Thompson & (1) Gertrude (2) Sarah Finney of PA, NC & TN, 1700s

Lawrence Thompson, born c1712 and wives (1) Gertrude (MNU) and (2) Sarah Finney is the third of four Thompson families I have previously researched.

Realizing that Thompson descendants might not want to traipse through all my theories and research steps, trying to sort out these four families, I decided to highlight each family in its own post.

The family of Lawrence Thompson is the third in the series, having already covered my research on the families of Closs Thompson and John Thompson.

This Lawrence Thompson is thought to be the brother of Thomas Thompson who married Ann Finney, but I have not found any conclusive proof of that.

My belief of the makeup of Lawrence Thompson’s family differs from most others found online. I’ll explain was we move through Lawrence’s records, but I believe that Lawrence who married Keziah Hart was the son of this Lawrence and NOT the son of Thomas and Ann (Finney) Thompson.

Lawrence, born c1712; died before 26 October 1790, Sumner County, TN, where he left a will naming his children; married (1) Gertrude, c1735, probably Berks County, Pennsylvania (2) Sarah Finney, probably c1840 in Pennsylvania.

Nothing further is known about Gertrude, with no known date of birth. She likely died before 1740. Since Gertrude’s only known child was baptized in Amityville, which was originally settled by Swedes, and Gertrude is a common Scandinavian name, she may have been of Swedish ethnicity.

Gertrude gave birth to one child, who only appears in a baptismal record in 1736. Elizabeth isn’t mentioned in her father’s will and no further records have been found for her.

Child of Lawrence and Gertrude:

Elizabeth, baptized 22 August 1736, St. Gabriel Episcopal Church, Amity, Lancaster County (today Berks County, Pennsylvania; died before her father, as she is not in his will.

Lawrence married (2) Sarah Finney, sister of Ann Finney, who married Thomas Thompson. The date of their marriage is not known, but probably around 1740 or 1741 in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania.

Sarah was likely a fair bit younger than Lawrence, as she was his second wife, born perhaps c1720. She isn’t mentioned in her husband’s will written on 26 October 1790 in Sumner County, Tennessee. Where she might have died is also not known.

Children of Lawrence and Sarah Finney (Birth order uncertain):

  1. Sarah, born c1745; died after 26 October 1790; married John Whitsett, c1767. John was born 8 October 1743 and died 11 August 1819, Greene County, Alabama. He served in the Revolutionary War in the Orange County, North Carolina militia.
  2. Sybilla, born c1747, probably Pennsylvania; died after 26 October 1790, probably Davidson County, Tennessee; married Hugh Tinnen, c1768. He was born c1745, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania; died 20 December 1794, Davidson County, Tennessee.
  3. Lawrence, born c1753, probably Orange County, North Carolina; died 21 April 1835, Madison County, Kentucky; married Keziah Hart, c1780, Kentucky. She was the daughter of Nathaniel Hart and Sarah Simpson. Keziah was born c1762, North Carolina and died c1837, Madison County, Kentucky.
  4. Joseph, born c1750, probably Pennsylvania; died after 26 October 1790.
  5. Mary, born c1759; died after 26 October 1790; married William Whitsett, 1 August 1785, Orange County, North Carolina.
  6. Azariah, born c1760; died 1797, Sumner County, Tennessee; married Catherine Allison, 4 September 1784, Orange County, North Carolina.

With no birth records in existence, the children’s birth order is based on marriage years, or estimated years of marriage. Given the gaps in years, it is likely that Lawrence lost one or more children before his own death in 1790.

Why have I chosen to place Lawrence who married Keziah Hart in the family of this Lawrence Thompson? It’s because of early Kentucky and Tennessee tax records, the Thompson and Hart FAN clubs, a 1779 marriage on North Carolina and the Revolutionary War pension application of Lawrence, who married Keziah.

First, there is a marriage bond for Lawrence Thompson, son of John Thompson and Eleanor Thompson, dated 8 April 1779 in Rowan County, North Carolina. Lawrence’s bondsman was Lawrence Thompson, identified on the bond as the son of Thomas Thompson.

Now, most people have identified Thomas’s son, Lawrence, as the man who married Keziah Hart. I don’t believe that. Lawrence who married Keziah stated in his pension application ((R10546) that he had a captain’s appointment in Orange County, North Carolina and served in the war from 1776-1778, and “continued in Commission through the latter part or sometime after the year 1778 when he resigned his commission as Captain to Archibald Lytle, Colonel, in North Carolina.”

Why would a captain resign his commission? Certainly not because of Tory tendencies. The Thompsons were patriots through and through.

It was because Lawrence headed off to Fort Boonesborough in Kentucky and married Keziah Hart, c1779-1780.

Daniel Boone was a Thompson friend (and bondsman for Closs Thompson who married in Rowan County, North Carolina in 1759) and other family members were in Kentucky by 1780, if not before that time.

Next, Lawrence Thompson Sr. (born c1712) appears on the tax lists of 1789 and 1790 in Sumner County, Tennessee and wrote his will there, dated 26 October 1790.

There were not one, not two, but THREE Lawrence Thompsons on the Sumner County 1790 tax list – Lawrence Sr., Lawrence Jr. and Lawrence who was taxed for 2 polls, meaning 2 males over 16.

I am quite certain that Lawrence Jr. was Lawrence who married Keziah Hart. That’s because Simpson Hart, Keziah’s unmarried brother, died in Sumner County after writing his will dated 23 February 1790. In it, he named the five children of his sister, Keziah Thompson, and appointed Lawrence Thompson to look after the legacies he bequeathed to their five young children, all of whom he named.

Since Simpson Hart didn’t say his sister was living elsewhere, say in Kentucky, it is reasonable to think that Lawrence and Keziah lived close by.

One of his daughters was named. . . . Sarah Finney Thompson. Lawrence Thompson Sr. married Sarah Finney. It seems quite probably that she was named for Lawrence’s mother.

I believe the third Lawrence Thompson was the son of Thomas and Ann (Finney) Thompson. His brother, also Thomas, is found on the same 1790 tax list. I also believe the second male in the third Lawrence’s household was my husband’s 4X great grandfather Ephraim Thompson, born c1772.

By 1793, the Thompsons were gone from Sumner County. Lawrence Sr. had died, Lawrence and Keziah removed to Kentucky, where they spent the rest of their lives and the third Lawrence removed to Mercer and then Washington Counties, Kentucky.

Another piece of the Lawrence puzzle is that Thomas’s son, Lawrence, married Ann Logue. Ann’s grandfather and brother were both named Ephraim, a given name that appears no where else in the Thompson family, with the exception of my husband’s Ephraim.

By 1794, Lawrence and Ephraim are found in marriage records and on tax lists, at least until 1796, when they appear in Washington County, Kentucky tax lists.

Now, we need to look once more at Lawrence Thompson who married Eleanor Thompson in 1779 back in Rowan County, North Carolina. This Lawrence eventually removed to Harrison County, Indiana and then to Clay County, Indiana, where he died after the 1840 census. He applied for a Revolutionary War pension and from names given in the application, we learn he had at least two children who removed to Indiana with him.

His daughter, Fanny, married James Booth on 11 February 1805 in . . . .Washington County, Kentucky.

Tax lists for that county show two Lawrence Thompsons from 1804-1806. The first is Lawrence, father of Ephraim, who appears taxed on the same day as his father and is sometimes listed right after his father and both are taxed for personal and real estate. This Lawrence was still living as late as the 1810 census, but no probate or estate records have been found for him.

The second Lawrence, who is the son of John and Priscilla Thompson, owned no land in Washington County and remained there only for a couple of years before leaving for Indiana.

In Washington County, Kentucky, Lawrence and Lawrence have come full circle, as these men are Lawrence, son of John Thompson, who married in 1779 and his bondsman, Lawrence, son of Thomas Thompson.

I have tried placing the Lawrence Thompson puzzle pieces together in multiple ways, but this is the only way that all the pieces fit together and make sense.


Updated Theory: Nagging Questions About the Many Lawrence Thompsons

Yes, I know I just posted about sorting out the Lawrences in the Thompson family.

In spite of all my work on the Thompsons, I still have some nagging questions.

Those questions pertain to exactly who Ephraim Thompson’s paternal grandfather was. In other words, who was the father of Lawrence Thompson and how does he fit in with all those Kentucky and Tennessee records that I’ve found.

I think there is a wild card – or two – in here. Let me explain why.

I like to do my own thinking and analyzing when it comes to genealogical research. That’s true whether I have primary records in front of me or am working with online chatter.

While meandering through that “chatter, ” I found an interesting “source” for much of what has been written about the Thompsons and Logues. I was already aware of the book that Jane Gray Buchanan published back in 1987. I referenced it in an earlier post, as I need to read it in the Family History Library. What I found interesting was the way a Logue researcher cited information:

Work and HYPOTHESIS [caps mine] of Jane Gray Buchanan

That tells me that even though Mrs. Buchanan’s book is said to be well done, there are unproven theories about some of the early families.

I have an alternate hypothesis that I think better fits the facts pertaining to all the Lawrences.

The first part of this post is a recap of earlier posts in my series. It is being repeated here because even I need it in front of me to keep all the details straight in my mind.

First, I am absolutely convinced that Ephraim Thompson was the son of Lawrence Thompson and Margaret Logue (not Ann Logue, as some say) because Margaret’s brother, Ephraim, wrote his will in April 1780 before he marched off to war. It was recorded in Caswell County, North Carolina in December 1780.

Ephraim Logue was a young man, married to Mary (MNU) and the father of only one child, daughter Eleanor. He seemed quite prepared to leave his estate to relatives and friends who named a son Ephraim after him.

I have an image of the will, but the book appears to have a stain mark and it’s hard to read. Here’s an abstract that I found online that appears to match the details in the will:

If Ephraim’s daughter, Eleanor (probably born c1767 as she married in 1787) died childless, Ephraim’s estate was to be divided between Ephraim Thompson (my Ephraim Thompson is the ONLY one I’ve found running around in this family in the 1700s) and the “first male heir of my brother John Logue to be named Ephraim Logue.” He further mentioned Alexander Walker of Guilford County, North Carolina, who was one of the executors of the will and a legacy to be given to Alexander’s son, Ephraim Walker.

Next, John Logue Sr. apparently wrote a will in 1769 in Orange County, North Carolina (Caswell County was formed from Orange County in 1777), but is said to NOT have been recorded, for whatever reason.

A copy of the will is said to survive among family papers, but no source or repository is given for either the will existing or who made this statement.

Aside from not being able to access this will, I have no reason to doubt that it existed at one time. Why it never was recorded is another issue.

However, the heirs of John Logue Sr. included wife Margaret, son John Jr., son Ephraim Logue (testator of 1780), and daughters Mary, who married Matthew Lindsey, 22 May 1755, Old Swedes Church, Wilmington, Delaware, Margaret who married Lawrence Thompson, Ann, who married Thomas Thompson and Elinor, who married a Hart.

Executor of John Logue Sr.’s will was Thomas Thompson, Sr., probable father of Thomas and Lawrence Thompson, his sins-in-law.

Assuming that the abstraction of John Logue’s 1769 will is real and accurate, this lends credence to the statements found online that Thomas Thompson (and Ann Finney) were the parents of Thomas Thompson Jr. and Lawrence Thompson.

Before I jump back into my questions about Kentucky records and assumptions, I need to remind you:

Thomas Thompson (born c1712) and Ann Finney migrated from the area around Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, c1750.

The Logues left Delaware in 1755, probably right after Mary Logue married Matthew Lindsey.

Lawrence Thompson Sr., (born c1710) married (1) Gertrude (MNU), before 1736 when daughter Elizabeth was baptized in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania (2) Sarah Finney.

Lawrence left a will in Sumner County, Tennessee, dated 1796, which named children, including Lawrence Thompson Jr.

IMPORTANT: Thomas and Lawrence Thompson lived in the area of Orange County that remained Orange County while they lived there. They did not ever live in the portion that became Caswell County in 1777.

Location is an important factor when separating out men of the same name.

John Thompson Sr., born c1715, and wife, Priscilla, also migrated to North Carolina, but settled in Rowan County. They came via Frederick County, Virginia (which previously had been Dunmore County, Virginia), where John owned land by 1751. They also had a son named Lawrence Thompson.

This Lawrence Thompson (son of John, so noted on the marriage bond) married Eleanor Thompson in Rowan County, North Carolina in 1779. Bondsman was Lawrence Thompson, son of Thomas (so noted on the bond).

Closs Thompson Sr., (born c1730) may have been the brother of John Thompson Sr. as they migrated together from Dunmore County, Virginia to Rowan County, North Carolina and on into Kentucky. Closs, too, had a son named Lawrence Thompson.

Therefore, we have these five Lawrence Thompsons:

  1. Lawrence Sr., born c1712; died 1790, left a Sumner County, Tennessee will that included son Lawrence Jr. Lived in Orange County, North Carolina by 1757, when he was named sheriff.
  2. Lawrence Jr., born say 1738 or later; died before April 1804, Tennessee when his estate administration began in Sumner county, Tennessee.
  3. Lawrence, son of John, born 1755; married Eleanor Thompson, 1779, Rowan County, North Carolina
  4. Lawrence, son of Closs, born c1762. Closs’s family lived in Rowan County, North Carolina
  5. Lawrence, son of Thomas Sr. and bondsman for Lawrence, son of John in 1779. Thomas Sr. was in Orange County, North Carolina by early 1750s.

My nagging questions have to do with fitting the Kentucky and Tennessee records to the way others have attached the frontiersmen with these five men in North Carolina.

My inquiring mind is having trouble reconciling two Kentucky Revolutionary War pensioners – Lawrence who married Keziah Hart and lived in Madison County, Kentucky when he applied for his pension and Lawrence married to Martha (MNU), of Clay County, Indiana, but who lived in Kentucky (counties not mentioned in his pension application) after the war with their likely parents.

Lawrence who married Keziah is said to be a son of Thomas Thompson Sr., who married Ann Finney.

I AM BEGINNING TO DOUBT THAT. I think “everyone” might have him in the wrong family.

Here is my reasoning.

Thomas Thompson Sr.  and Ann Finney were the parents of Thomas Jr. and Lawrence, bondsman for Lawrence, son of John. This family lived in Orange County, North Carolina.

Lawrence Sr., proposed brother of Thomas Sr., migrated to Sumner County, Tennessee. The family of Lawrence Sr. also lived in Orange County, North Carolina.

In 1789, there were THREE Lawrence Thompsons living in Sumner County, Tennessee. For sure, one was Lawrence Sr. It is likely that the second man was Lawrence Jr. named in his father’s will. The third Lawrence is an unknown.

Thomas and Ann (Finney) Thompson’s son, Thomas Jr. (who married Ann Logue), also lived in Sumner County.

Lawrence who married Keziah Hart is also connected to Sumner County because his brother-in-law, Simpson Hart, also lived there and left a 1790 will with bequests to the five (at the time) children of Lawrence and Keziah. They had NO son named Lawrence.

Because of Thomas Thompson Jr. being in Sumner County, Lawrence who married Keziah has been called the son of Thomas Thompson Sr.

My hypothesis is that Lawrence who married Keziah was Lawrence Jr., son of Lawrence Sr.

Remember my first theory about Ephraim and Lawrence Thompson first found in 1793 and 1789, respectively, in Mercer County, Kentucky and then next door in Washington County, Kentucky after that time?

These two families lived near each other – and moved together – for years. There are even two transactions in land records in 1803 and 1804 noting that Ephraim bought land from Lawrence in Washington County, Kentucky.

If Ephraim is the son of Lawrence Thompson and Margaret Logue, and from Logue family records, Lawrence is the son of Thomas Thompson Sr. and Ann Finney, then we have father and son living near each other.

To further support that theory, Margaret and Grace Thompson, both identified as daughters of Lawrence, who gave permission for them to marry, wed in Mercer County. Margaret married Emer Stalcup in 1792 and Grace married Henry Landes in 1799.

An additional detail which I haven’t mentioned is that Emer Stalcup, husband of Margaret Thompson, died in 1805. Ephraim Thompson was the estate administrator. In those days, family members were most likely the ones to take on the job of settling an estate. If Ephraim was Margaret’s brother, it makes perfect sense.

David Thompson, who is said to be a son of Lawrence Thompson, married Malinda Newell/Neville there in 1796. This David Thompson died in Montgomery County (which bordered Boone County, where Ephraim owned land), Missouri in 1821. Could he be the reason that Ephraim and second wife Isabella Jones, named their son David in 1846?

If I accept that Lawrence Thompson in Mercer County is the son of Thomas and father of Ephraim, then all those pieces of the puzzle fit.

If Lawrence Thompson who married Keziah Hart and lived early in Sumner County, Tennessee, the puzzle pieces also fit. His family had a double reason for being there – he was close to his own father and to some of Keziah’s kin.

That accounts for the first Revolutionary War pensioner. Lawrence and Keziah soon removed to Madison County, Kentucky and spent the remainder of their lives there.

As for the second Revolutionary War pensioner – Lawrence Thompson of Clay County, Indiana – he was quite helpful when he provided Dunmore County (later Frederick County), Virginia as his birthplaces c1755.

That places him as the son of either John or Closs Thompson. I’m not sure that Closs’s son Lawrence was born soon enough to be this man born c1755.

Therefore, by process of elimination. the Indiana man is the Lawrence, son of John, who married Eleanor Thompson in 1779. By the early 1800s, Eleanor had died and Lawrence was married to Martha (MNU).

The only piece from Washington County, Kentucky that doesn’t fit with Ephraim is that Fanny Thompson, daughter of John and Martha Thompson, married James Booth in 1808 in Washington County, Kentucky. Fanny and her brother moved with John and Martha to Harrison County, Indiana and later to Clay County.

Tax records may come to the rescue yet again. Several early years of Washington County records are so faded or blurred that it is impossible to read them, BUT the 1802 list is clear and crisp. On 24 August, Lawrence Thompson was recorded on the tax roll with no land. On 31 August, Ephraim Thompson was recorded with no land and ON THE SAME DAY – 31 August – Lawrence Thompson was taxed for 255 acres of land at the 2nd rate.

That proves there were two Lawrence Thompsons there at the same time. One is the Indiana pensioner and the second is Ephraim’s father.

The Indiana Lawrence left Kentucky sometime after 1806.

Ephraim’s father likely died not many years after 1802. Ephraim bought his land in 1803 and 1804. He may well have moved in with Ephraim, or the family of one of his other children, passed away and had no probate because he no longer had real estate to bequest.

There is one Lawrence Thompson in the 1810 Washington County census. This seems to be Ephraim’s Lawrence, as two Lawrence Thompsons appear on the Washington County tax rolls through 1806. After that time, Lawrence with 145 acres of land is consistently listed, often on the same day, on the tax rolls through 1815.

No Lawrence Thompson is found after that date and Ephraim appears for only two more years, in 1816 and 1817. However, I can’t account for the sale of Lawrence’s 145 acres. Ephraim sold his 110 acres on 11 May 1818. (Deed Book F:6)

As for the last loose end – the third Lawrence in Sumner County, Tennessee – I believe he is Ephraim’s father who left Tennessee for Mercer County, Kentucky sometime between 1789 and the 1783 road work order in Mercer County court records.

Readers, what do you think? All the puzzle pieces fit with my hypothesis. I think I might be on to something. 🙂


Targeting the Right Lawrence Thompson

Here is a quick summary of my conclusions regarding the various Lawrence Thompsons who have turned up.

We have the following cast of characters:

  1. Lawrence on the Mercer and Washington Counties, Kentucky tax lists in the 1790s and early 1800s
  2. Lawrence, son of John, who married Eleanor Thompson on 8 April 1779, Rowan County, North Carolina
  3. Lawrence, son of Thomas and of Orange County, who served as bondsman for Lawrence, son of John, in 1779.
  4. Lawrence, born 1755, in Dunmore, Virginia; Revolutionary War pensioner, married to Martha (MNU), and who died probably in Clay County, Indiana sometime after the 1840 census
  5. Lawrence, born 1753, Revolutionary War pensioner, who died in Madison County, Kentucky in 1835, married to Keziah Hart
  6. Lawrence, born c1712, widowed by 1790, when he wrote his will in Sumner County, Tennessee, but who is credited with civil service in Orange County, North Carolina between 1757-1779
  7. Lawrence, Jr., named as son of Lawrence, born c1712 in his 1790 will
  8. Lawrence who died before April 1804 in Sumner County, Tennessee when widow Catherine was appointed to administer his estate.
  9. Sumner County, Tennessee tax list includes Lawrence Sr., L. Jr. and Lawrence in 1789.
  10. Lawrence, son of Closs, born c1762, lived in Shelby and Fleming Counties, Kentucky

After much digging and analysis, we have:

Lawrence #10, son of Closs, is out of the picture. He lived in other counties in Kentucky and is too young to be the father of Ephraim.

That leaves:

Lawrence #1 is the same man as #2 who married Eleanor AND as #4, the Revolutionary War pensioner Lawrence born in 1755 and who removed to Clay County, Indiana. Marriage records haven’t been found for him after 1779 when he married Eleanor Thompson, but his signature on the marriage bond and the signature on his pension application both show the unusual way in which he wrote capital T in cursive.  His pension application said he had lived in Kentucky, but made no mention of Tennessee. That will be important in a minute.

Lawrence #3 is the same man as Lawrence #5 and the third Lawrence in #9. Keziah Hart and her brother Simpson’s will in 1790 in Sumner County, Tennessee tie them together.

Lawrence #6 is the same man as the first Lawrence in #9. He died in 1790 in Sumner County, Tennessee.

Finally, we have Lawrence Jr., #7, who almost flies under the radar.  With his father, Lawrence Sr., being born c1712, Lawrence Jr. could have been born as early as c1738 and certainly is a perfect age to be the possible father of Ephraim. It is also alleged that Lawrence Jr. married Ann Logue, who had a brother and grandfather who were both named Ephraim. I believe Lawrence #7 is the same man as Lawrence #8, who died not long before April 1804, when widow Catherine was appointed to administer his estate. I also believe he is “L. Jr.” in #9, listed directly under Lawrence Sr. in the 1789 Sumner County, Tennessee tax list. He was taxed for 3 polls, meaning in 1789, he would have had 2 males at home, probably between 16-21 years old, in addition to himself. Ephraim, born c1770, would have been about 19 years old.

The final compiled list identifies 5 Lawrence Thompsons:

  1. Lawrence, born c1712; died 1790, left a Sumner County, Tennessee will that included son Lawrence Jr.
  2. Lawrence Jr., born say 1738 or later; died before April 1804, Tennessee when his estate administration began.
  3. Lawrence, son of Thomas, born 1753; married Keziah Hart; died 1835, Madison County, Kentucky and had no son named Ephraim.
  4. Lawrence, son of John, born 1755; married Eleanor Thompson and Martha (MNU); died after 1840, probably Clay County, Indiana.
  5. Lawrence, son of Closs, born c1762; lived in Shelby and Fleming Counties, Kentucky

Given the birth years stated in pension applications and the estimated birth year for Closs’s son and other court and probate records, the possible choices for a father for Ephraim are quickly narrowed down to the line of Lawrence, born c1712.

His will named no son named Ephraim, but he did name son Lawrence, who would have been of an age to be Ephraim’s father. In addition, a possible clue is that he reportedly married Ann Logue and the given name of Ephraim is prominent in her immediate family.

My working theory is that sometime between that 1789 Sumner County tax list and a 1793 Mercer County, Kentucky court order, when Ephraim is named as a working hand to help maintain the road, Ephraim left Tennessee family and migrated to Mercer County, Kentucky, where other family members were living.

The Lawrence Thompson who appears with Ephraim in Mercer and Washington Counties in the tax lists, court minutes and land deeds was Lawrence, son of John, and the Revolutionary war pensioner, who moved to Indiana. This Lawrence is placed in Washington County, Kentucky by the 1805 marriage of Fanny Thompson, daughter of Lawrence, who married James Booth. The Booths also removed to Indiana with her father.

Lawrence of Clay County, Indiana and Ephraim would have been first cousins once removed if Lawrence born c1712 and John Thompson were brothers. If Lawrence and John were first cousins, then Lawrence of Indiana and Ephraim would have been second cousins once removed.

UPDATE: Coming tomorrow – thinking outside the box and a new theory!